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archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's

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just another night for Supernatural

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girls real stories real answers to

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life's biggest supernatural mysteries

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and now for another exciting interview

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with Errol experts in this world and

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others here's your host paranormal

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researcher Patricia Baker on the one the

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welcome everyone to another very

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exciting episode of Supernatural girls

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radio I am am your host Patricia Baker

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and I am here with my co-host all the

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way from Tucson Patricia Kirkman PK how

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are you tonight absolutely fabulous we

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had such a beautiful day in the high 80s

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ah I know Robyn well I I have to say

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something like that after I went through

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the heat for the summer I just want you

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to know that the heats still here

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but it feels good send it over we need

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some heat doesn't we are going to do

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things a little bit differently because

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our guest is Patrice Chaplin and she is

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all the way over in London tonight where

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she's five hours ahead of us it's very

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late at night and she is generously

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giving of her time to be with us so we

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are gonna start right away with Patrice

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show we're gonna go and do our

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numerology which I know PK you've got a

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gonna go through paranormal news and

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talk about our upcoming shows we have a

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introduce our guest to you she has a

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long and illustrious career as a writer

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she's an internationally renowned

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playwright and author who has published

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more than two dozen books her most

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Jodie Foster and Isabella Rossellini

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into the darkness laughing is another

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work of hers hidden star night-fishing

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and death trap her stage play from the

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balcony will is commissioned by London's

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National Theatre in conjunction with

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Radio 3 as a bohemian in Paris she has

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lived life let's let's admire this I

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mean it's amazing though the life that

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she's led so as a bohemian in Paris

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during the 50s and 60s Patrice spent

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time with jean-paul sartre and Simone de

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Beauvoir she married Charlie Chaplin's

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son Michael and lived and worked in

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Hollywood she was associated with Lauren

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Bacall Miles Davis Salvador Dali Marlon

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Brando and Jean Cocteau who gave her a

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starring role in one of his films now we

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know patrice based on her amazing

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paranormal books city of secrets the

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portal the stone cradle and the one

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we're going to be talking about tonight

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which we loved it's an incredible

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incredible book lucifer by moonlight

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now Patrice has opened the door to

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entirely new and compelling elements of

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all kinds of mysteries and we're gonna

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hear about Lucifer tonight so Patrice

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welcome to the show hello I'm glad to be

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on it hi

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well thanks so much for staying up so

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late to talk to our audience tonight

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about your new book Lucifer by moonlight

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is so wonderful you call it a fable but

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this is a very powerful book it's more

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than just a fable this was a channel

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book so tell us please how you got

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started on the Lucifer topic something

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amazing happened to you with a healer so

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let's start there right what it is

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called the summer of Lucifer so they had

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a you know storm and hurricane Lucifer

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the heat wave which was just mentioned

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by by PK Jason was also called Lucifer

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here so Lisa was all right I didn't

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think any more about it and I went to

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the healer Steven Sharov who's a psychic

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surgeon so you go in there and you get

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knee and I went back to him because he

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was really powerful he doesn't spend

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long he does it quickly and he has a lot

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of clients because he works and I K went

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like that and he said just as he was

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going out of the door

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he turned and he said you are going to

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have a visit from an angel within the

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terrified because I thought that's it

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what kind of show so either

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what kind I'm only told the angel is go

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of is it you and they said you're not

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afraid of death though you and I said oh

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no no I was terrified so he said what

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and the angel was gonna come on told

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it's good he went out the room so I went

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home and I thought well it'll be up

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night I'm probably gonna have a terrible

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sort of vision and that would be it

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maybe bit of bodily pain and our paths

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through and that will be me in the next

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place I am I was quiet I was quite

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nervous quite prepared in a way for what

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was gonna happen I'm sort of mediumistic

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got to go over there so if I go with an

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angel that's fine um I got through the

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night I slept through the night next day

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no sign of an angel the following

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be it so I said some prayers I went to

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people like Stephen get it wrong he does

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wonderful things but no injury here and

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about Lucifer lying on the stone cradle

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automatic but I had some choice over

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channeling I've never done it before

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never was that it woke rose higher so I

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could remember it later and he or should

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I change that name should I do something

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with that and then it went deeper so

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that my hand sped over the paper I write

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with a pen and I realized afterwards

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that I don't remember anything about him

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said to me like today and what I have

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it's just an incredible adventure that

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you had with this and as you mentioned

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this and writing it and I gotta tell you

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that when when PK and I read this it

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there's something about it Patrice where

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it really it changes you I mean it's a

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transformative work I don't know if

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you've heard that from other people

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about it but it really feels like you've

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hit some spark in that book that gets

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inside your head and your heart and it

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just changed us things I don't know how

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transformative yes that's what I feel

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about it I feel that the story needed to

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be told I felt it showed another aspect

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of what some people think it's a devil

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that later on you are so it's questions

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charismatic and not frightened they have

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no fear they go with it and I feel right

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and abused and misused by religion to

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try to demonize him and we know the

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story but still it feels like there is

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so much more to the Lucifer entity as an

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archangel and yet you mentioned that

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France five thousand years plus ago so

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to Christ and he was a child of light

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was a stone that rocked and it had

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various qualities and also nutrients in

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in in the cradle which sustained this

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being also said a woman from the east

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came to tend to him it was said he was

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brought well he came here to walk the

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earth to form an to evolve to lift him

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people in could go back 5,000 years they

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would be speaking they'd be making sound

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remain

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things going back along the way so and

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long heads were around at that time to

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but did they state I have no idea

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Lucifer came and gave language he gave

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his old men T bought them the etheric

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plane healing he was around when the

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time of the first pyramid he was there

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when that was being built he had a

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definite link with session who was the

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goddess of writing measuring she was she

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couldn't measure pyramids and the other

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thing she was psychic and he brought a

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link between her and the area but a

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stone cradle but she didn't Catalunya

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just north of Girona and just below the

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Pyrenees Mountains and people have gone

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over the years to look for traces of

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Lucifer especially notably utter wrong

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who is the German Grail writer in the

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30s he went down there and he knew about

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the stone and he thought it was probably

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the third eye of Lucifer that had fallen

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onto the mountains but in fact it was

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this very old keidel stone which was

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probably one of the oldest stones on the

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planet and in fact it was a meteorite it

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wasn't an existing soon as part of a

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you know it's and again people should

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get your other book to stay on cradle to

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read more about your adventures with

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that because that's another powerful

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book but I think true literature does

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change who you are and and this is what

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this book does Lucifer by moonlight it's

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I can't recommend it

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enough because just reading this book is

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going to change you in your life I

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guarantee it and I also want to say to

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you that your illustrator there's most

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amazing little illustrations in this

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book she does such a beautiful job so we

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need to thank her for the work that she

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did this is Scott Miller and she's an

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artist and very well known over here and

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it's the first time she's ever

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Illustrated and you think gosh that's

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great I love the little red hit punky

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hair she gave I have a question for you

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from the chat room and this is from

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Vampira who's saying do you think

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Lucifer was demonized as a way just to

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create a nemesis for the church to carry

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out a political mission to increase

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their power probably I mean that by

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young encouraging there or improving

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their power expanding her power I

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certainly think that there were things

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about Lucifer that did not fit him with

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her teaching and then male doctrine but

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they've never said actually in the Bible

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as far as I've been told by priests that

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Lucifer is mentioned as the Antichrist

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or Satan or the devil he's called to

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being the light bringer exactly there's

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only one mention of him - from what I

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heard in the King James Bible yeah but I

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think that what it is that they they

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can't accept this being which defied God

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because after all according to what we

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Lucifer was the Archangel the favorite

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of God he said

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the high table and he was disobedient

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westwoods wanted free will and he gave

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the beings there a choice he said you

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know think for yourselves to his free

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will go to the edge and these were

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beings that had one layer of thinking

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and behaving they were obedient so in

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exchange for what he did and said he was

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thrown out and so he caused the fool

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which meant for hidden apparently

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according to many writers according

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especially to Steiner he couldn't then

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be the master of Venus the Venus was the

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place he loved the most

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that was the place he needed to be his

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true home his true love and he was

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excluded because one of the four and a

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second because he used the five the

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number five so this was another I've

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forgotten the pentagram he wasn't

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allowed to use the pentagram and he did

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so I mean the pentagram is another whole

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story to it but he was there in the area

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we read where you know we're kind of a

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cult what Lucifer's point of view we're

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kind of limited we've got you know we've

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got to a jewel honey here and he's his

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punishment was to remain here on on

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subsequent planets similar maybe less

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beneficial but he couldn't die he was no

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dying no rebirth and I thought that came

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through and what I wrote in definitely

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in process yeah he was yes I felt he was

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here for this time around he was here

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for redemption

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and not for but not he stirs things up

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like think of that Catalunya with where

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he came where he landed and we think now

340
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what is happening Catalunya today and

341
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it's big fight with Madrid because they

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want independence they want

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they don't want law according to

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man-made law that other people want

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their own there's a lot of loose if Eric

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stopped going on there now and people in

347
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Catalunya because he's are being relied

348
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they don't wish to have him reviled

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they're very very clear on that he's

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they brought temples to Venus which will

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Lucifer ik they've got towers buildings

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churches which are Lucifer ik they have

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music ritual and these people call him

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Lucifer quite openly

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he's the being of light so there's no

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question not only that there's a girl

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there the gold a shoemaker gold

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we've been going a long time and called

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loose polite which celebrate Lisa and

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the countless before that they had

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Celtic settlements in their area they

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call him lug Lu Zhi and a two celebrated

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so he's a I don't think he's an

364
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archetype I think he's an actual

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presence that will be somewhere around

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what will he look like well he's gonna

367
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look like us or we kill him monthly so

368
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he's gonna be something like us but he's

369
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gonna have more two of them so that's

370
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what I would think he's probably a

371
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wanderer he doesn't stay put long he'd

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be charismatic and he that's another

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thing the church don't like a berry

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myths that he deflects light they say he

375
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has no real light that he takes the

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light from other beings and flex it and

377
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what is behind the dark the void mm-hmm

378
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that's also in Catalonia they really

379
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Revere him

380
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yeah and that's so different than the

381
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rest of the world that has learned to

382
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associate him with bad things and Satan

383
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and temptation and all of that stuff

384
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somehow this part of the world was able

385
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to preserve a completely different

386
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legacy yeah that happened yeah hmm and

387
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they have a society which protects the

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stone kale area where there are many

389
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entities and elementals and they've been

390
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there for hundreds of years I mean they

391
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never see a human being I mean they've

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got a huge land full of old stones and

393
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the ancient trees and though there are

394
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no people around hardly any but people

395
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used to go to the stone cradle to be

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healed they used to go there to die

397
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to give birth and to get well that was

398
00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:47,940
the the idea of that place and it has

399
00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:52,830
many interesting qualities to it so it's

400
00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:55,260
certainly been used for many good things

401
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they're not bad things exactly exactly

402
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so it's just fascinating that now this

403
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,870
part of the world is caught up in trying

404
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to achieve their own independence which

405
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:09,630
is all about freewill right so how

406
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fascinating it that's where what we're

407
00:22:16,940 --> 00:22:13,830
watching right now in the world stage

408
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and it looks like Spain isn't taking it

409
00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:21,600
very well they're not thing about it is

410
00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:25,380
that just recently last Saturday there

411
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was a quite established flagship

412
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broadcast in Madrid a political one on

413
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our TV there main station showing the

414
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Catalan leader the deposed leader in

415
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Belgium and he was talking about

416
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probably go he was prepared to go to

417
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jail for his beliefs and so were his

418
00:22:59,150 --> 00:22:56,160
associates and at that moment the music

419
00:23:05,440 --> 00:22:59,160
the theme music from The Exorcist the

420
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:09,380
nobody knew why this had happened it

421
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:13,110
seemed like an incredible insult to the

422
00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:13,770
Catalan

423
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:18,780
um also if you know Lucy I think it was

424
00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:21,530
my cold food it was their bells

425
00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:24,540
something like the name of the theme

426
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:28,380
music but it the film is 1973 and it was

427
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:31,530
definitely a demonic present and under

428
00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:31,980
us

429
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:35,720
yeah so I mean they were indicating that

430
00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:39,290
pushed him on the Catalan leader was

431
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:42,900
possibly Lucifer and probably I think

432
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:45,840
that the legend of Catalunya

433
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,200
and Lucifer's probably penetrated Madrid

434
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:51,600
by now they probably thought for their

435
00:23:57,740 --> 00:23:53,610
hands on that one and it's very light

436
00:24:01,820 --> 00:23:57,750
yes but they use this to discredit him

437
00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:01,830
as part of Catalunya and their belief

438
00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:04,470
and many people believe they they

439
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:07,620
believe and they accept the loose if

440
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:12,570
Eric legend and history it's so

441
00:24:18,050 --> 00:24:16,080
fascinating and and as a community

442
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:18,060
what are they like I mean are they a

443
00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:20,700
happy bunch of people are they do they

444
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:23,550
have any differences in their community

445
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,210
that are noted notable you know what I'm

446
00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:29,760
saying is it yeah yeah yeah yes they do

447
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:32,700
you think this is the Catalans yeah they

448
00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:33,150
do

449
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:37,230
they're quite um oh they're proud

450
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:39,810
they've got a heron they've got a

451
00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:41,910
history that old they go back a long

452
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,630
long way they believe their own country

453
00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:47,700
they're gonna give but they don't want

454
00:24:55,220 --> 00:24:52,800
people taking mmm-hmm to fight for their

455
00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:55,230
identity it's more than independence

456
00:25:02,480 --> 00:24:57,900
right for their identity I was there in

457
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:02,490
late fifties when Franco and the regime

458
00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:05,220
were very strong in Spain because the

459
00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:07,470
Republic second Republic lost the Civil

460
00:25:13,850 --> 00:25:11,670
War and Catalunya was part of the the

461
00:25:18,410 --> 00:25:13,860
payment that they fought hard and lost

462
00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:18,420
and and I remembered that the these

463
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:21,860
people fought for what they believed

464
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:25,050
even if it meant that in the night cars

465
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:27,570
came

466
00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:29,400
blowing cause there are no lights and

467
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:32,190
chalk the area's Catalans

468
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:35,970
away to jail ordered death but they were

469
00:25:40,820 --> 00:25:37,020
never seen again

470
00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:40,830
oh my god no sir yeah in spite of that

471
00:25:46,550 --> 00:25:43,590
and people you know old enough like my

472
00:25:49,910 --> 00:25:46,560
sort remember they they remember only

473
00:25:53,030 --> 00:25:49,920
too well and they say this is a replay

474
00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:53,040
of what we've been through before so I

475
00:25:58,610 --> 00:25:55,950
feel that they they they're prepared to

476
00:26:00,320 --> 00:25:58,620
fight they have their own language they

477
00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:00,330
have their own dancing they have their

478
00:26:06,770 --> 00:26:03,800
own culture they're different to Spanish

479
00:26:09,410 --> 00:26:06,780
there's no question about it and the

480
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:09,420
Spanish in turn feel about the Catalans

481
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:13,440
that they're arrogant that they they're

482
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:15,480
too rich they walk because they work

483
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:18,450
hard but also the learned is lustrous

484
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:21,510
say boys they've they've had it very

485
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:23,850
well with that countryside there's no

486
00:26:32,860 --> 00:26:27,930
question and also the Catalans are

487
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,870
mystical they've got aside which comes

488
00:26:37,850 --> 00:26:35,520
interesting oh yeah definitely

489
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:37,860
people from all the history that they've

490
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,050
had a man have had going back the

491
00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:42,480
Phoenicians they've had the greats about

492
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,660
the Romans Mary Magdalene was that were

493
00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:47,760
supposed to be there the Jews but

494
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:49,800
certainly the cabinet's were there

495
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:52,740
Charlemagne was there and in with the

496
00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:56,100
question of the kabalists it was a lot

497
00:27:02,270 --> 00:26:58,950
of the main tenants of Kabbalah were

498
00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:02,280
founded actually in Girona which is

499
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:06,120
called the mother of Israel and the

500
00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:10,110
thing with some of the experiments they

501
00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:13,560
conducted well mystical going into

502
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:16,800
amazing layers for from ones we the

503
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:20,250
levels they went to mint some of them

504
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:24,090
didn't return a life or didn't return or

505
00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:27,150
returned ill not well in their minds

506
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:31,140
only one came back apparently with a

507
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:34,350
story that he could write an account and

508
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:39,300
when expulsion came they the Jews were

509
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:41,110
given a choice to

510
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:44,710
so a lot of the Catalans have Jewish

511
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:46,750
blood okay

512
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:48,850
don't remember of course they don't

513
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:51,850
remember and it wasn't talked about the

514
00:28:00,660 --> 00:27:55,840
whole area was covered up motion so it

515
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:00,670
was only opened in 1972 and I was there

516
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:02,560
at the time of the opening of that

517
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:04,930
cavernous Center and it was very

518
00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:07,510
important to the mother hall of the

519
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:11,470
Jewish system and I still remember

520
00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:14,470
getting money for it from going to

521
00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:16,180
Hollywood and talking to people like

522
00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:18,520
Kissinger and all the spies and getting

523
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,470
money to keep this going this place

524
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:23,200
which was well now it's going very well

525
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:26,050
I must say but it's so it's a mixed yeah

526
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,260
there's a lot of strange things that go

527
00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:31,360
on these people except they throw well

528
00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:34,060
it's the way it is this is how it is we

529
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:35,980
don't it sounds like a very mystical

530
00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:38,500
part of the world and in the way that

531
00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:40,840
they've embraced Lucifer being the

532
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:42,550
Morningstar and being an archangel I

533
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:44,410
mean it's a very different way I think

534
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:46,330
of looking at not just Lucifer but

535
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:47,980
looking at the world and that's why I

536
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:49,510
wondered how they were as a community

537
00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:52,690
but you answered that very well so that

538
00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:55,270
now I think we have a picture of who

539
00:29:00,540 --> 00:28:57,910
these people are and they're to be

540
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:00,550
commended for standing by their

541
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:03,430
principles that's for sure oh my

542
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:06,310
goodness this is fascinating the trees

543
00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:08,290
so again we are speaking tonight with

544
00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:11,020
Patrice chaplain who is the author of a

545
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:14,500
new book called Lucifer by moonlight

546
00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:18,430
it's terrific and I think everybody in

547
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:20,380
our audience tonight would really enjoy

548
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:23,770
reading it and this is true literature

549
00:29:30,540 --> 00:29:27,400
it is the real stuff that transforms

550
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:30,550
your life so don't hesitate to get this

551
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:33,730
book it's available on amazon.com and it

552
00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:37,570
is really really special so we're going

553
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:39,630
to continue our conversation with

554
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:42,280
Patrice right after our very short

555
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,920
commercial break we've got Patrice with

556
00:29:49,950 --> 00:29:47,200
us for one more half hour we've got a

557
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:49,960
lot of questions to get to in the chat

558
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,930
room so stay with us everybody you are

559
00:29:59,340 --> 00:29:54,640
listening to Supernatural

560
00:30:01,920 --> 00:29:59,350
radio we'll be right back welcome back

561
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:01,930
everyone to Supernatural girls radio

562
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:03,940
I'm your host Patricia Baker here with

563
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:08,080
my co-host pk and our guests we're so

564
00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:09,970
honored to have her on the show with us

565
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:12,190
tonight Patrice chaplain we were talking

566
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:16,120
about her new book Lucifer by moonlight

567
00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:18,760
you want to be transformed get a copy of

568
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:21,070
that book and read it it will change you

569
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:22,330
I guarantee it

570
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:24,010
so I've got a bunch of questions for you

571
00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:25,360
Patrice and then we're going to get back

572
00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:27,280
to that conversation we were having off

573
00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:30,070
the air because it was amazing but

574
00:30:36,030 --> 00:30:33,220
here's a question from Henry saying did

575
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:36,040
Lucifer encourage others to follow him

576
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:39,190
or did he go about his own business I

577
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:41,530
never understand what his agenda on

578
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:45,910
earth was no he didn't

579
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:48,490
as far as I know he did not encourage

580
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:52,600
our following he do his business on

581
00:31:02,700 --> 00:30:57,970
earth was to help people to be evolved

582
00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:02,710
to help them to heal to lift up their

583
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:05,980
spiritual side which obviously was not

584
00:31:13,770 --> 00:31:10,000
to existence at that time and to help

585
00:31:18,780 --> 00:31:13,780
with the building of the pyramid and to

586
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:18,790
go from two layer to jewel jewel

587
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:22,000
universe when he was used to a much

588
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:23,470
wider story

589
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:27,430
I don't even heard anything where he's

590
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:31,210
had followers he's a recent solitary

591
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:37,570
being amongst people but to see the

592
00:31:45,780 --> 00:31:43,840
sightings of possible Lucifer never have

593
00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:45,790
anybody else around

594
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:50,200
except of course he had people who were

595
00:31:57,180 --> 00:31:54,730
drawn in by his charisma when I said it

596
00:31:59,070 --> 00:31:57,190
was male/female that's another side

597
00:32:01,650 --> 00:31:59,080
people you know they said he wasn't

598
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:01,660
limited I mean he wasn't allowed for

599
00:32:07,869 --> 00:32:05,830
mail he was kind of had a female side so

600
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:07,879
be knotted and rot

601
00:32:15,699 --> 00:32:11,929
but would be someone who each other -

602
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,709
swords - mm-hmm well that would make

603
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:18,559
sense coming from Venus you know there's

604
00:32:23,529 --> 00:32:21,919
a feminine influence mm-hmm that he

605
00:32:25,629 --> 00:32:23,539
would have that side of him quite

606
00:32:27,549 --> 00:32:25,639
developed here's another question this

607
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:27,559
is from Brian Gresham he wants to know

608
00:32:37,479 --> 00:32:34,399
did God ever show mercy on Lucifer well

609
00:32:39,939 --> 00:32:37,489
as far as on toe by people who would

610
00:32:43,809 --> 00:32:39,949
know more than I do that would be mean

611
00:32:46,269 --> 00:32:43,819
the society that look after this system

612
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:46,279
cradle and he's the journeys to Venus

613
00:32:53,859 --> 00:32:51,229
and other places that he was given a

614
00:32:58,719 --> 00:32:53,869
world like a prison sentence but it's a

615
00:33:03,219 --> 00:32:58,729
time he's given a time to live out their

616
00:33:06,849 --> 00:33:03,229
whole business of his disobeying I

617
00:33:11,229 --> 00:33:06,859
suppose disobeying the law not was it so

618
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:11,239
the time that was spent is being here as

619
00:33:17,979 --> 00:33:14,769
we said earlier here in other places but

620
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:17,989
certainly not in the place that he would

621
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:20,569
most like to be master of another thing

622
00:33:27,129 --> 00:33:24,529
that sucks for you longs for and I know

623
00:33:30,449 --> 00:33:27,139
that's fight kids can reach can reach

624
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:34,239
yes yes now we had an interesting

625
00:33:40,299 --> 00:33:37,849
conversation off the air that we've got

626
00:33:41,949 --> 00:33:40,309
to bring to our audience because I think

627
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:41,959
you could have knocked me over with a

628
00:33:45,939 --> 00:33:44,329
feather and YouTube pk because the

629
00:33:49,209 --> 00:33:45,949
question was that we were talking about

630
00:33:52,419 --> 00:33:49,219
off the air is anybody seen Lucifer and

631
00:33:55,719 --> 00:33:52,429
you said yes so we gotta go there we

632
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:55,729
gotta go there tell us about your

633
00:34:03,939 --> 00:33:57,769
experience and other people's experience

634
00:34:07,959 --> 00:34:03,949
and seeing Lucifer right no I can't say

635
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:07,969
that what I saw was Lucifer but I can

636
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:11,990
only say that other people well maybe

637
00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:13,970
Assumption or some people had the

638
00:34:20,019 --> 00:34:16,190
definite certainty that this was the

639
00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:20,029
case and all the visitations happened in

640
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:21,319
a short period of time

641
00:34:27,189 --> 00:34:24,649
about a month and it was must be about

642
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:27,199
three or four years ago and it was in

643
00:34:32,769 --> 00:34:30,709
Paris in the Church of son German which

644
00:34:35,319 --> 00:34:32,779
is quite a big it's a big church she's

645
00:34:37,419 --> 00:34:35,329
an old church it's right right in the

646
00:34:42,489 --> 00:34:37,429
you know the center of the old ponder

647
00:34:45,369 --> 00:34:42,499
and and I was the other words it's big

648
00:34:48,430 --> 00:34:45,379
full of tourists which would be normal

649
00:34:50,349 --> 00:34:48,440
there with our visitors people who come

650
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:50,359
in from work because they go and date

651
00:34:58,779 --> 00:34:55,119
master when I was quite near the altar

652
00:35:01,779 --> 00:34:58,789
with a friend and I was suddenly aware

653
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:01,789
of it it's absolutely beautiful figure

654
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:04,880
in front of me but maybe three rows in

655
00:35:08,739 --> 00:35:06,049
France

656
00:35:12,489 --> 00:35:08,749
and it was a male he turned round he had

657
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:12,499
quite long blonde hair he looked at

658
00:35:17,709 --> 00:35:14,930
three being to the sea he had the kind

659
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:17,719
of beautiful skinny but I took it's a

660
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,670
movie so it's got to be and then I

661
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:21,440
really like he's wearing a kind of white

662
00:35:28,329 --> 00:35:25,400
tunic and that he had these brown naked

663
00:35:30,579 --> 00:35:28,339
legs very very beautiful legs and no no

664
00:35:35,229 --> 00:35:30,589
shoes so it was nothing on his feet

665
00:35:39,219 --> 00:35:35,239
except some anklets of some kind and he

666
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:39,229
walked through the crowd I turn around I

667
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:43,400
saw him walking just quite just moves

668
00:35:48,999 --> 00:35:45,410
really effortlessly through the crowd

669
00:35:52,449 --> 00:35:49,009
and no one noticed him mattalast bunch

670
00:35:54,549 --> 00:35:52,459
and he went straight towards the exit

671
00:35:58,420 --> 00:35:54,559
and I followed him right yes I thought

672
00:36:00,339 --> 00:35:58,430
how is he gonna go out without shoes yet

673
00:36:02,319 --> 00:36:00,349
he left his shoes with the beggars

674
00:36:04,809 --> 00:36:02,329
outside we're talking you

675
00:36:07,809 --> 00:36:04,819
he didn't go outside he suddenly pinged

676
00:36:10,359 --> 00:36:07,819
out like a light he was gone and I

677
00:36:12,849 --> 00:36:10,369
thought where is he is he gone as he's

678
00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:12,859
praying in prayers you on the floor in

679
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:15,559
first you've gone doing your cycle is he

680
00:36:21,339 --> 00:36:18,890
behind a statue and I said to my friend

681
00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:21,349
did you did you see him and she didn't

682
00:36:27,489 --> 00:36:24,380
she said no but I noticed there was this

683
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:27,499
smell a perfume direct kind of strange

684
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:31,249
beautiful perfume for just a moment when

685
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:34,510
I crossed the road to the

686
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:37,870
mango cafe I mentioned I might not have

687
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:39,340
mentioned it just said what I mentioned

688
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:41,490
at some point and the way to say oh

689
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:49,810
that's Lucifer why wouldn't you go in

690
00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:53,440
there he was on I came shortly at the

691
00:36:59,970 --> 00:36:57,430
high point he would go in there and the

692
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,980
author was in fact made of stone from

693
00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:02,400
the Pyrenees which is where the cradle

694
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:07,500
anyway then I saw on Facebook and

695
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:10,330
accounts from other people that they

696
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:14,290
were questioning have you seen this

697
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:17,260
beautiful figure around the Church of

698
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,500
San Jimin it's a boy who's absolutely

699
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:22,480
extraordinary like no we're not very

700
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:24,610
beautiful has anyone else seen him

701
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:27,910
people asking this maybe five or six and

702
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:31,090
the people who were writers visiting

703
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:33,970
Paris from America actually and asked

704
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:36,760
you know it's figure within Santa men

705
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:41,560
and different times of the day have you

706
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:43,330
you know do you know who he is is that a

707
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:47,170
movie star who could you know be and no

708
00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:50,890
one had much to say about it except um

709
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:53,860
one writer did she thought she thought

710
00:38:00,480 --> 00:37:56,650
that he was a spirit you know from be

711
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:00,490
beyond death but the waiter in the dome

712
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,950
ago was certain that they wrote the word

713
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:04,960
on the street was his loosely now the

714
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:08,050
visit stopped and they never came back

715
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:12,010
again as far as I know but I did write

716
00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:14,170
about it I wrote about him Facebook so

717
00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:17,830
it's very drawn by this this experience

718
00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:22,140
I have no more conclusion about it

719
00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:25,150
really except that the power of the

720
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:29,500
being was very strong you wouldn't get

721
00:38:36,990 --> 00:38:32,190
that in a normal human being

722
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:37,000
incredible oh my goodness an incredible

723
00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:39,670
experience for you and for other people

724
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,100
who and for that the person in the

725
00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:44,320
restaurant to say oh that was Lucifer I

726
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:47,740
mean it was like this is accepting yes

727
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:50,710
was it's incredible well here's another

728
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:51,970
question for you

729
00:38:57,359 --> 00:38:55,210
Patrice this is from Brian who is asking

730
00:39:01,140 --> 00:38:57,369
hi Patrice are the portals you have

731
00:39:04,890 --> 00:39:01,150
spoken about previously also a gateway

732
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:04,900
for these Bible entities like demons to

733
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:09,280
slip in and out of our world mm-hmm

734
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:12,330
well I don't know who slips in and out

735
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:15,010
that's for sure I do know there are

736
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:18,610
portals and that you if you're you've

737
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:19,810
done the work you've done the

738
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:22,540
preparation you've got there you can do

739
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:25,540
it you go through I mean not your body

740
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:29,410
but your consciousness goes through two

741
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,260
other energies other places other

742
00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:34,480
sources and you can take long journeys

743
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:39,460
equally beings or entities or energies

744
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:42,970
can come in and I remember when I wrote

745
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:47,470
the book to the city of secrets which

746
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:50,680
mentioned the portal I did get a call

747
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:53,710
from NASA which Sara asked me if I'd

748
00:39:58,980 --> 00:39:56,410
come across in your official Paul cause

749
00:40:02,550 --> 00:39:58,990
and I said I don't need come across

750
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,560
without 21 non-artificial one I had no

751
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:04,240
answer to that because I don't know what

752
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:06,790
they were like but apparently they were

753
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:09,310
made by Howard Hughes when he came back

754
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:13,840
in 1933 from his visit don't know when

755
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:15,700
he did the journey with what he called

756
00:40:21,690 --> 00:40:18,550
the Southern Cross which is the same as

757
00:40:24,359 --> 00:40:21,700
the constellation of the bear apparently

758
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:24,369
and you've got a boat which she called

759
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:26,170
the Southern Cross - got it in Scotland

760
00:40:35,849 --> 00:40:31,350
and I gathered - that he K went back and

761
00:40:38,490 --> 00:40:35,859
made replicas of the portals and he said

762
00:40:40,859 --> 00:40:38,500
to me it was an aviator I didn't think

763
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:40,869
at the time doc Hughes but it's obvious

764
00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:43,000
one and then I heard later it was and

765
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:46,060
they didn't have they didn't have the

766
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:51,730
necessary filter of a natural portal so

767
00:40:57,540 --> 00:40:54,970
things did come in so things slipping in

768
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:57,550
and out well I heard a couple of things

769
00:41:01,630 --> 00:41:00,400
but not you know not to along I must say

770
00:41:05,410 --> 00:41:01,640
but they were

771
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:05,420
like from being a 50,000 light-years

772
00:41:12,549 --> 00:41:09,920
away that would appear at some point I

773
00:41:15,489 --> 00:41:12,559
guess in 50,000 years I don't know but

774
00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:15,499
that one wanted to know what we could

775
00:41:21,370 --> 00:41:18,380
expect what he looked like there was

776
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:21,380
various things like that and incredible

777
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:27,170
it NASA called you about it I mean they

778
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:28,910
asked questions about things they know

779
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:38,710
nothing about right yeah they just go oh

780
00:41:44,859 --> 00:41:43,160
my goodness well getting back to to

781
00:41:47,229 --> 00:41:44,869
Lucifer again here is a question because

782
00:41:50,589 --> 00:41:47,239
again so many people have been taught to

783
00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:50,599
associate Lucifer with Satan or Lucifer

784
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:54,380
with the Antichrist and again I

785
00:42:00,160 --> 00:41:56,930
questioned all of that at this point but

786
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:00,170
here's the Walking Dead is asking you

787
00:42:04,359 --> 00:42:02,089
would like to know if there is an

788
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:04,369
antichrist who is walking our earth now

789
00:42:10,089 --> 00:42:06,529
so do you have any information on that

790
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:10,099
no I would of them fit that bill but I

791
00:42:16,299 --> 00:42:13,730
don't know personally one but I think

792
00:42:20,229 --> 00:42:16,309
they say a few people have got enough

793
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:20,239
dark side to them to encourage and open

794
00:42:26,109 --> 00:42:22,910
the door for evil I would say that but

795
00:42:30,489 --> 00:42:26,119
an actual figure no I don't know I've

796
00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:30,499
not heard of it okay all right good so

797
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:34,670
again with Lucifer it's very this is

798
00:42:41,529 --> 00:42:37,599
intriguing us like to the nth degree

799
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:41,539
because this is an archangel that

800
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:44,150
possibly we have been taught to leave

801
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:47,749
out so so many people pray to angels you

802
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:50,690
know they ask for help from Archangel

803
00:42:59,380 --> 00:42:53,450
Michael they asked for help from Gabriel

804
00:43:01,390 --> 00:42:59,390
or you know are you Castiel but sounds

805
00:43:06,190 --> 00:43:01,400
like the people in Catalonia are the

806
00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:06,200
only people who have asked Lucifer for

807
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:08,390
guidance and help do you think that's

808
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:12,050
true that they've learned how to do that

809
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:14,270
I think there's another place in the

810
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:16,940
desert you know which is further east

811
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:21,040
I've heard about that where it's equally

812
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:25,280
let's say the people approach that

813
00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:27,950
subject because they want answers and

814
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:31,940
they want to have rituals which benefit

815
00:43:37,570 --> 00:43:34,310
them and to do with the light I mean

816
00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:37,580
there was a a small cradle it's more the

817
00:43:42,310 --> 00:43:39,500
only other crates don't cradle I know a

818
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:42,320
bar or I've been told you about a night

819
00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:44,270
I mean I don't know every stone cradle

820
00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:47,950
but only one was in Ephesus Ephesus

821
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:54,230
where the the Virgin Mary was ended her

822
00:44:02,500 --> 00:43:58,160
days yeah and the system's very small

823
00:44:04,810 --> 00:44:02,510
Stern cradle it was apparently stolen by

824
00:44:07,930 --> 00:44:04,820
the Knights Templar I never seen again

825
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:07,940
that people will record this cradle hmm

826
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:14,570
oh my goodness so what do you think

827
00:44:19,810 --> 00:44:16,730
people should do or do you have any

828
00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:19,820
suggestions what if people want to to

829
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:21,560
find out more about Lucifer what if they

830
00:44:31,090 --> 00:44:25,610
want to contact him as an entity is do

831
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,100
you think that's safe to do um I would

832
00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:33,440
say to go through Venus that would be

833
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:37,960
the thing I think that - mmm - make a

834
00:44:43,210 --> 00:44:40,310
supplication to Venus would be the right

835
00:44:45,370 --> 00:44:43,220
thing you know like a chant you know um

836
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:45,380
she crier namaha

837
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,130
so it's a chance to Venus they would be

838
00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:51,680
I would think one way I don't know I

839
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:54,620
have no idea how you could call up

840
00:44:59,490 --> 00:44:57,470
Lucifer I don't know and that's the

841
00:45:03,430 --> 00:44:59,500
loose of the chose to be someone's guide

842
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:03,440
psychically then I own that would be

843
00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:07,010
apparent but I don't know I mean I feel

844
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:10,220
that the the church know a lot more

845
00:45:16,930 --> 00:45:14,240
about Lucifer than they say and I felt

846
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:16,940
to that you know in the u.s. I mean

847
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:22,480
those in Arizona there's that

848
00:45:29,259 --> 00:45:25,910
Observatory you know with a huge Terrace

849
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,269
I sort of fell pointing up Venus she's

850
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:30,319
poor deuce

851
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,400
and apparently the ground that holds

852
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:36,079
that observatory and all the ground

853
00:45:43,479 --> 00:45:38,930
around its own buddy by the Vatican and

854
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:43,489
this is a lot of things oh yeah there's

855
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:46,729
a lot of things like that where the

856
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:51,410
Vatican and Lucy farik presence comes

857
00:45:59,769 --> 00:45:56,089
together I mean I haven't yet met a

858
00:46:03,569 --> 00:45:59,779
priest that said Lucifer's over cage

859
00:46:08,979 --> 00:46:03,579
it's kind of like if you're going into

860
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:08,989
into spirit prayers or reference you

861
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:12,640
would go to Jesus or to God you know but

862
00:46:21,009 --> 00:46:17,200
Lucifer singing I think I said before as

863
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:21,019
people who are against Lucifer say he

864
00:46:27,459 --> 00:46:24,140
deflects stolen light that is not his

865
00:46:29,529 --> 00:46:27,469
only that's the man behind him it's a

866
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:29,539
void what is in the void well we don't

867
00:46:37,870 --> 00:46:34,400
know and the other side is that he's

868
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,880
paying the penance for disobedience and

869
00:46:42,279 --> 00:46:40,160
I do feel there is a similarity with

870
00:46:45,509 --> 00:46:42,289
what's going on in Catalunya now to some

871
00:46:48,549 --> 00:46:45,519
degree and that is that they don't want

872
00:46:51,009 --> 00:46:48,559
man-made laws they are above that they

873
00:46:53,769 --> 00:46:51,019
have a spiritual connotation now they

874
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:53,779
were very buff man made Lord Madrid I do

875
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,210
feel that very strongly it's very hard

876
00:47:00,660 --> 00:46:58,640
for them to take that when they've got

877
00:47:01,809 --> 00:47:00,670
other sort of another bursts right

878
00:47:04,180 --> 00:47:01,819
mm-hmm

879
00:47:05,799 --> 00:47:04,190
yeah it's never gonna be accepted I'm

880
00:47:08,410 --> 00:47:05,809
sure that it's all gonna be knitted

881
00:47:08,799 --> 00:47:08,420
together one more another because of the

882
00:47:14,049 --> 00:47:08,809
money

883
00:47:15,759 --> 00:47:14,059
don't you see it change radically yes

884
00:47:19,479 --> 00:47:15,769
yes exactly

885
00:47:21,609 --> 00:47:19,489
now here is a question from Conte who

886
00:47:22,269 --> 00:47:21,619
wants to know have you ever spoken to

887
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:22,279
Lucifer

888
00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:27,920
no no he's God has spoken to you through

889
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:32,150
this book though right yeah in some ways

890
00:47:38,279 --> 00:47:34,640
I would know I think I would know his

891
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:38,289
voice though as a

892
00:47:44,539 --> 00:47:41,049
modern day well yeah modern day person

893
00:47:49,529 --> 00:47:44,549
or even older person I would know his

894
00:47:53,609 --> 00:47:49,539
his his intentions I don't think his

895
00:47:57,870 --> 00:47:53,619
interventions are bad I think not being

896
00:48:02,130 --> 00:47:57,880
able to pass in to sleep and to die and

897
00:48:04,949 --> 00:48:02,140
be reborn is a hard one and I think that

898
00:48:07,469 --> 00:48:04,959
I got that sense really not very much so

899
00:48:10,169 --> 00:48:07,479
nice writing in a different way to what

900
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:10,179
I would if I was thinking about being

901
00:48:14,819 --> 00:48:12,390
here forever you know it would be like

902
00:48:16,799 --> 00:48:14,829
well just give me a handful of pills and

903
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:16,809
I'd take off no sleep here you know it

904
00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:19,689
would be too much for the whole journey

905
00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:21,880
the whole trip but I'm sure that there's

906
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:24,849
redemption for everybody and I feel

907
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:27,640
after having written that and meeting an

908
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:29,650
idea of redemption which I certainly

909
00:48:36,809 --> 00:48:33,549
didn't have before I wrote it I think

910
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:36,819
the redemption is the answer to all that

911
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:40,630
really yes yes that makes sense

912
00:48:45,509 --> 00:48:43,209
I you know I can see why you're saying

913
00:48:48,419 --> 00:48:45,519
that now do you have the sense that

914
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,429
Lucifer is going to be channeling more

915
00:48:54,929 --> 00:48:51,599
information maybe to do a second book in

916
00:48:59,399 --> 00:48:54,939
detail about answering some of these

917
00:49:01,949 --> 00:48:59,409
other questions well yes I did feel that

918
00:49:05,939 --> 00:49:01,959
there would be one about Lucifer in

919
00:49:08,219 --> 00:49:05,949
Paris I thought that would be one that

920
00:49:11,429 --> 00:49:08,229
would be possible I felt that that was

921
00:49:14,819 --> 00:49:11,439
kind of like being nudged into my my

922
00:49:16,979 --> 00:49:14,829
head you know yeah all right I thought

923
00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:16,989
it would be it would be a marvelous idea

924
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:20,589
but as the first book didn't come from a

925
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,640
Marvis idea or any idea I don't know I

926
00:49:28,289 --> 00:49:26,559
think it's a question of whether it

927
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:28,299
happens I couldn't

928
00:49:34,739 --> 00:49:31,630
suddenly write a book it would have to I

929
00:49:37,169 --> 00:49:34,749
think again be channeled it got on that

930
00:49:39,989 --> 00:49:37,179
subject that didn't I could sit down

931
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:39,999
write it yeah he couldn't have picked a

932
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:43,209
better writer than you know fortress for

933
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:45,130
sure definitely

934
00:49:50,219 --> 00:49:48,130
now here's another question - I'm sorry

935
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:50,229
did you have a question pk yes alright

936
00:49:53,569 --> 00:49:51,180
go ahead honey

937
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:53,579
okay this is from the chat room again

938
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,730
this is from lucky one who's asking do

939
00:50:01,280 --> 00:49:58,800
you think it is a conspiracy to make

940
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:01,290
Lucifer good so people will fall away

941
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:04,440
from Judaism or Christianity no not at

942
00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:06,990
all because I think people would stay

943
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:08,369
with what they believe and I think

944
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:14,000
Lucifer is a kind of an extra unanswered

945
00:50:21,290 --> 00:50:18,480
unsorted presence we haven't quite got

946
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:21,300
him I think the people like Judith

947
00:50:27,859 --> 00:50:24,990
Steiner I'm not as an antipasto fest but

948
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:27,869
I know people are and I think that he

949
00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:30,650
plays a part of big part in our

950
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:33,990
evolvement which is not recognized and

951
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:36,329
maybe that is what's being pushed

952
00:50:43,579 --> 00:50:39,089
through and I feel that the bad ones

953
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:43,589
like arimin and and Satan I mean all

954
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:48,839
that all the dark side is avoided as

955
00:50:54,829 --> 00:50:51,300
best as possible you know or prayed for

956
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:54,839
or whatever one does but he loses out

957
00:51:03,079 --> 00:50:58,170
there with the creative ones I think

958
00:51:05,059 --> 00:51:03,089
there's a feeling I've also dry wit and

959
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:05,069
and sophistication

960
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,250
I don't feel he's an inelegant being at

961
00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:11,760
all and I could around so long he knows

962
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:16,980
the story right yes yes that makes a lot

963
00:51:22,359 --> 00:51:20,400
of sense gosh I had PK you had a

964
00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:22,369
question well I was wondering

965
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:25,319
considering that Lucifer has taken on so

966
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:29,190
many different roles shall we say has

967
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:33,630
that impact created a more opening for

968
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:37,049
people to be acceptable to will say Lucy

969
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:44,700
as well as Lucifer etc yeah I think so I

970
00:51:49,460 --> 00:51:46,890
think I'm gonna I think this is just

971
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:49,470
personal view I would say yes I think

972
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:52,740
that the Lucifer to hook her on the

973
00:52:00,890 --> 00:51:57,210
streets of Rome rough london i the first

974
00:52:03,319 --> 00:52:00,900
is the other side part of Lucifer and I

975
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:03,329
think that that would well it would just

976
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:04,780
be an adjunct to there

977
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:07,660
would just be another side which is

978
00:52:15,050 --> 00:52:09,220
something that's already happening

979
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:15,060
people are recognized and you know

980
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:17,950
androgynous or they have two identities

981
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:21,010
or just one identity which is other than

982
00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:24,190
the one they've always know I saw that

983
00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:28,630
he would that Lucifer would have more

984
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:31,720
than two I would have so mm-hmm

985
00:52:36,750 --> 00:52:34,750
it just felt like there was so it was

986
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:36,760
opening doors for other people to see

987
00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:39,490
that you don't have to be just one

988
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:42,700
person or in one day what a direction

989
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:44,950
that all things flow together the good

990
00:52:49,110 --> 00:52:46,990
the bad and the ugly but for the most

991
00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:49,120
part it's opening doors to look at

992
00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:51,460
things in a different light yeah that

993
00:52:55,350 --> 00:52:53,950
does seem like part of what he's he's

994
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,360
saying is accept yourself for who you

995
00:53:00,540 --> 00:52:57,760
are be who you are live to the fullest

996
00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:00,550
it does seem like part of what we took

997
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:02,950
away anyways from this wonderful book

998
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:05,710
well unfortunately I know Patrice you

999
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:07,630
need to go and get a good night's sleep

1000
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:09,460
and we can't thank you enough for

1001
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:12,700
joining us so very late at night there

1002
00:53:18,830 --> 00:53:15,880
in London but we're so happy to hear

1003
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:18,840
from you about your new book moon lights

1004
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:23,140
yes it's a great book everybody if you

1005
00:53:28,590 --> 00:53:25,690
want to transform yourself get that book

1006
00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:28,600
it is terrific and Patrice we hope

1007
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:31,540
you'll come back and join us again at

1008
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:33,130
when your next book comes out which I'm

1009
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:34,870
sure won't be too long from now knowing

1010
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:38,170
where you are so thank you thank you

1011
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:40,270
thank you so everybody else stay tuned

1012
00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:41,980
we're coming back we're gonna be doing

1013
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:44,200
numerology of Lucifer and many other

1014
00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:46,870
things for the last half hour of the

1015
00:53:50,490 --> 00:53:48,430
show so we're gonna take a short

1016
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:50,500
commercial break and we will be right

1017
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:52,930
back welcome back everyone to

1018
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:55,150
supernatural girls radio I'm your host

1019
00:54:00,930 --> 00:53:57,610
Patricia Baker I am here with my co-host

1020
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:00,940
PK and we've just had the most amazing

1021
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:07,330
discussion look for him after she

1022
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:09,730
described what he looked like hey I want

1023
00:54:17,339 --> 00:54:14,800
that man she writes about that in that

1024
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:17,349
book moonlight by Lucifer

1025
00:54:22,589 --> 00:54:20,200
is people get drawn in by his charisma

1026
00:54:25,759 --> 00:54:22,599
and you can see why would the way she

1027
00:54:28,529 --> 00:54:25,769
described him it's just fascinating so I

1028
00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:28,539
thought of him having long blonde hair

1029
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:31,720
yeah don't ask me why but never thought

1030
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:34,450
of him being blonde yeah well in the

1031
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:38,950
book he has red hair and so when she saw

1032
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:41,470
him in person he had blond hair very

1033
00:54:47,279 --> 00:54:44,499
fascinating story so anyway so what

1034
00:54:50,009 --> 00:54:47,289
we're gonna do now is we're gonna go to

1035
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:50,019
the numerology segment but before we do

1036
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:51,849
that I just wanted to make a couple of

1037
00:54:57,989 --> 00:54:55,089
announcements because November 22nd

1038
00:55:02,969 --> 00:54:57,999
which is next Wednesday we did a

1039
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:02,979
pre-recorded show and it is one not to

1040
00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:06,729
miss it is an interview with Robert

1041
00:55:13,579 --> 00:55:10,420
Abbott ello and he is a practitioner of

1042
00:55:17,630 --> 00:55:13,589
acupuncture naturopathy homeopathy and

1043
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:17,640
herbalism and he treats Lyme disease and

1044
00:55:23,069 --> 00:55:19,839
autoimmune disease we've had a lot of

1045
00:55:24,749 --> 00:55:23,079
requests to do a show on this and so we

1046
00:55:28,349 --> 00:55:24,759
took this opportunity right before

1047
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,359
Thanksgiving to air this show for you so

1048
00:55:34,529 --> 00:55:31,119
next week that show will air at our

1049
00:55:37,319 --> 00:55:34,539
regular time 7:30 to 9:00 Eastern and

1050
00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:37,329
you will hear some incredible

1051
00:55:42,479 --> 00:55:39,400
information about Lyme disease

1052
00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:42,489
autoimmune disease and how to heal from

1053
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:46,119
this terrible scourges on humanity but

1054
00:55:51,150 --> 00:55:48,460
Roberts been treating patients now for

1055
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,160
over 30 years he's very knowledgeable he

1056
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:53,920
has great great information this is a do

1057
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:56,170
not miss show if you know anybody who's

1058
00:55:59,849 --> 00:55:58,089
struggling with Lyme or autoimmune

1059
00:56:03,630 --> 00:55:59,859
disease be sure to tell him about the

1060
00:56:06,269 --> 00:56:03,640
show on November 22nd then the week

1061
00:56:10,259 --> 00:56:06,279
after we've got our buddy Nick Redfern

1062
00:56:13,019 --> 00:56:10,269
coming here I eat be good is gonna join

1063
00:56:17,029 --> 00:56:13,029
us and oh my god what are you talk about

1064
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:17,039
with Nick men in black black eye kids

1065
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:21,369
shadow people cryptids hellhounds my

1066
00:56:26,249 --> 00:56:24,729
favorites that is gonna be another great

1067
00:56:28,589 --> 00:56:26,259
show so that'll be the week after that

1068
00:56:30,329 --> 00:56:28,599
we'll be live and we can't wait to have

1069
00:56:31,050 --> 00:56:30,339
Nick on the show he's supposed to be

1070
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:31,060
with us

1071
00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:33,010
a month ago but he got terribly sick

1072
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:35,350
lost his voice but he's back on track

1073
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:37,810
now he is really anxious to come and

1074
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:40,260
talk to our audience about the latest

1075
00:56:44,850 --> 00:56:42,850
Mothman sightings and everything else

1076
00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:44,860
that's going on in the world today all

1077
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:48,100
of the crazy stuff that we love so he'll

1078
00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:52,420
be on then and let's talk about Lucifer

1079
00:56:56,130 --> 00:56:55,240
talk about those numbers what did you

1080
00:56:57,780 --> 00:56:56,140
find

1081
00:56:59,850 --> 00:56:57,790
well you know it was kind of funny

1082
00:57:02,370 --> 00:56:59,860
because I was looking at Lucifer and

1083
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:02,380
since he has no last name I'd have to

1084
00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:04,510
deal with only the first name which is

1085
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:07,630
the physical self but lusus Lucifer

1086
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:13,210
becomes a 38 - person which means he

1087
00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:16,450
can't really process alone he has to

1088
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:19,000
have someone to work with he needs a

1089
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:21,490
partner and if you think about it all

1090
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:23,080
that he does the good the bad the ugly

1091
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:25,390
cannot be done without someone with him

1092
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:27,280
and I never thought about that before

1093
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:30,270
isn't that interesting oh my goodness

1094
00:57:38,010 --> 00:57:35,200
yeah and he reference since the first

1095
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:38,020
offers consonant of the name becomes a

1096
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:40,450
six which means he's a perfectionist at

1097
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:43,450
what he does so he wants whatever he

1098
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:46,450
does to be perfect but he can't truly do

1099
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:49,440
it alone so he has to have someone to

1100
00:57:58,140 --> 00:57:53,320
look up to a play with or what-have-you

1101
00:58:00,780 --> 00:57:58,150
but a very interesting soul but the 38 -

1102
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,790
means that he's got to be very creative

1103
00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:03,520
but he has to be in charge of the

1104
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:05,740
partnership so I just thought that was

1105
00:58:12,210 --> 00:58:09,220
interesting to see how the level doesn't

1106
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:12,220
and we're asking about it today which is

1107
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:16,480
a nine day which is a day of ending old

1108
00:58:21,210 --> 00:58:18,790
things making way for new to take place

1109
00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:21,220
but it's a 15-9

1110
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:23,560
so it's about the independence and

1111
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:25,390
making major changes of how we look at

1112
00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:29,290
things this was a little interesting

1113
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:32,800
here to see how it gets together yes

1114
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:34,930
well and you know it's it's so it's so

1115
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:37,330
interesting to me the timeliness of this

1116
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:40,240
and you you see Patrice's book that just

1117
00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:42,790
came out and they also I'm not I know

1118
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:44,590
you said you've also seen

1119
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:48,130
lucifer the television show and as your

1120
00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:50,020
time as the hit show it's a great show

1121
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:54,520
very terrific acting good scripts but

1122
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:56,770
the personality of lucifer in the

1123
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:59,530
television show is very similar to the

1124
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:01,500
personality that patrice

1125
00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:06,490
yeah yes it's fascinating how that

1126
00:59:12,660 --> 00:59:09,340
gentleness and yet the firmness of what

1127
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:12,670
takes place oh yeah and in a sense of

1128
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:14,260
humor and everything that comes across

1129
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:16,450
the television show also came across and

1130
00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:18,240
Patrice's book again she wrote about

1131
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:22,630
this person this archangel quite you

1132
00:59:28,220 --> 00:59:25,210
know as a channeled kind of information

1133
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:28,230
book but it's so similar so anyways

1134
00:59:32,850 --> 00:59:31,210
fascinating fascinating I liked it it

1135
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:32,860
was I think having around talking about

1136
00:59:36,510 --> 00:59:35,170
it after watching the show on that and

1137
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:36,520
of course talking with her about the

1138
00:59:41,610 --> 00:59:38,980
book and that's why blonde hair just but

1139
00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:41,620
hmm because on the show he has black

1140
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,150
hair yeah he does

1141
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:45,520
yeah you I kept thinking about me my

1142
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:47,830
blonde hair it didn't fit well of course

1143
00:59:55,890 --> 00:59:53,290
it darkness there are watch to be and

1144
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:55,900
whenever you can he can just bug out

1145
01:00:00,090 --> 00:59:57,820
like a light bulb that goes off that's

1146
01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:00,100
what she saw exactly he was there and

1147
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:02,350
then he was gone shut he got the blob

1148
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:06,460
yeah amazing it is amazing it is totally

1149
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:09,460
amazing so you have other numerology

1150
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:12,250
information for us tonight well you know

1151
01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:13,600
we were talking and different ones have

1152
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,430
asked about bastard numbers or double

1153
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:17,760
numbers or seeing the same numbers and

1154
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:20,050
the master numbers represent an

1155
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:22,540
opportunity to really they're showing us

1156
01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:24,700
a turning point when we see something

1157
01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:27,460
like that repeating numbers or they

1158
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:30,280
could appear on a clock what we look at

1159
01:00:33,540 --> 01:00:32,230
on a daily basis all of a sudden we see

1160
01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:33,550
certain numbers all the time

1161
01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:36,940
and I the more I look at those I'm

1162
01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:39,670
seeing them more as a wake-up call take

1163
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:41,500
a look at what the number really shows

1164
01:00:48,180 --> 01:00:43,950
us what is it about what does it open

1165
01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:48,190
for us because yeah it isn't just you

1166
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:49,990
know if we see the same number all the

1167
01:00:56,010 --> 01:00:52,210
time well the number relates to a single

1168
01:00:58,140 --> 01:00:56,020
digit or it becomes a master number so I

1169
01:01:00,690 --> 01:00:58,150
was thinking a look at all the math

1170
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:00,700
your numbers particularly but the number

1171
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:04,450
11 which is a master but it has to do

1172
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:06,910
with yourself because it's really a 2

1173
01:01:11,849 --> 01:01:09,520
because I always always go to the single

1174
01:01:14,099 --> 01:01:11,859
digit it makes it easier to read but it

1175
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:14,109
doesn't take away the impact of the

1176
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,130
strength of the master but the two it's

1177
01:01:23,220 --> 01:01:20,799
all about doing for yourself receiving

1178
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,230
information from a higher element and

1179
01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:25,839
it's about sharing it with another to

1180
01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:27,700
again partnership which is what we were

1181
01:01:32,819 --> 01:01:30,700
talking about Lucifer in his own way so

1182
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:32,829
it's a fast-paced energy but it makes

1183
01:01:38,579 --> 01:01:35,650
changes and it makes us want to make

1184
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:38,589
things happen so when somebody sees

1185
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:41,710
something PK like an 11:11 on the clock

1186
01:01:47,309 --> 01:01:45,010
over and over and over again that's an

1187
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:47,319
opportunity as you said to wake up some

1188
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:50,559
people see the 11:11 is a gateway so

1189
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:52,180
he's telling you here's a gate that you

1190
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:55,450
can pass through what do you suggest to

1191
01:01:59,519 --> 01:01:57,520
people I mean should they sit down and

1192
01:02:02,010 --> 01:01:59,529
kind of meditate for a few minutes take

1193
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:02,020
a deep breath I mean what should they do

1194
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:04,750
I think like I said it's opening doors

1195
01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:08,200
any time we see double numbers take a

1196
01:02:12,779 --> 01:02:09,880
look at first what the number itself

1197
01:02:16,769 --> 01:02:12,789
represents singly then take a look at

1198
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:16,779
what represents as a pair because you're

1199
01:02:18,569 --> 01:02:18,010
looking at it from two different

1200
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:18,579
directions

1201
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:24,210
the 11:11 it's a 2 but it's also a 4

1202
01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:27,609
because the 2:11 but it's directing us

1203
01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:29,470
to be doing something in a partnership

1204
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:31,900
or in a relationship that we shouldn't

1205
01:02:37,319 --> 01:02:34,960
just sit back and let things transpire

1206
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:37,329
we need to jump in and make it work

1207
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:39,910
because you're given the opportunity to

1208
01:02:46,289 --> 01:02:43,000
be the partner the leader the sensitive

1209
01:02:48,990 --> 01:02:46,299
one to what is taking place mm-hmm and I

1210
01:02:51,049 --> 01:02:49,000
think also doesn't it have people give

1211
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:51,059
people an opportunity to take a pause

1212
01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:53,230
because let's face it we're all running

1213
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:55,480
around crazy in Our Lives doing too many

1214
01:03:00,539 --> 01:02:58,930
things and so you stop and you see 11:11

1215
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:00,549
on the clock I mean it could be that

1216
01:03:06,059 --> 01:03:02,680
moment that you just take a breath and

1217
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,069
pause from the busyness of life to just

1218
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:08,559
reconnect reconnect internally reconnect

1219
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:11,140
spiritually whatever it is that you need

1220
01:03:14,070 --> 01:03:11,950
to do in your life

1221
01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:14,080
yes and also when you take a look at how

1222
01:03:19,350 --> 01:03:16,390
the numbers are represented is they say

1223
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:19,360
using it singly or doubly or as the 11

1224
01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:22,480
itself as a master number or as the just

1225
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:24,940
as the two which is about a partnership

1226
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:27,130
or wanting a partnership wanting a

1227
01:03:32,730 --> 01:03:30,910
relationship or if we're having me 11 11

1228
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:32,740
it becomes a four so it's something to

1229
01:03:37,250 --> 01:03:34,810
do with work working through a

1230
01:03:41,310 --> 01:03:37,260
partnership and or a relationship or

1231
01:03:42,030 --> 01:03:41,320
setting one up to be worked through so

1232
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:42,040
mm-hmm

1233
01:03:48,060 --> 01:03:45,460
anytime you see numbers that come I find

1234
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:48,070
yeah like I said I have a tendency to go

1235
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:50,650
back to the singles because it gives a

1236
01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:52,930
quicker view of what's taking place but

1237
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:55,630
when you look at it overall it's opening

1238
01:04:01,740 --> 01:03:58,960
doors for us to reevaluate as you say

1239
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:01,750
stop smell the roses what does this help

1240
01:04:08,730 --> 01:04:06,430
you exactly but people that find the

1241
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:08,740
will say to be eleven eleven or the 22

1242
01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:12,610
the 22 or the 22 for that's about the

1243
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:14,260
details and that's all about building a

1244
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:17,680
stronger energy about working through

1245
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:20,980
some things but it's also physical

1246
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:22,750
because for deals with health and

1247
01:04:27,470 --> 01:04:24,910
healing so when we're looking at that

1248
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:27,480
it's saying stop take a look but also

1249
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:32,350
for is rules and regulations so what are

1250
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:35,110
we letting slide by that we just take

1251
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:38,290
that extra time what is it going on in

1252
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:40,570
our life at this moment that we need to

1253
01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:43,780
take another look at mm-hmm just now

1254
01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:45,580
when you see something like the four

1255
01:04:50,010 --> 01:04:47,470
which is also about rules and

1256
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:50,020
regulations is that also time to see are

1257
01:04:53,550 --> 01:04:51,730
you being kind of a scofflaw are you

1258
01:04:56,790 --> 01:04:53,560
ignoring some rules and regulations do

1259
01:04:59,250 --> 01:04:56,800
you ask yourself that definitely or how

1260
01:05:00,810 --> 01:04:59,260
have I been feeling gee maybe I should

1261
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:00,820
get that checkup that I've been putting

1262
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:02,770
off for a long time for deals with

1263
01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:05,110
health but it also deals with land and

1264
01:05:10,110 --> 01:05:06,910
property so maybe we've got a deal

1265
01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:10,120
that's ongoing so look at it a little

1266
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:11,950
more thoroughly is giving us an

1267
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:15,220
opportunity to invest in a future or

1268
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:17,650
something that's coming up but we need

1269
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:20,650
to take a look at is it for us to look

1270
01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:24,160
at right now see how it comes with what

1271
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:25,360
we're doing on a day to day

1272
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:27,520
basis you know we now all of a sudden

1273
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:30,250
have inherited a few dollars and all of

1274
01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:32,350
a sudden we're getting all these pushes

1275
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:35,350
about land and property to me that would

1276
01:05:40,170 --> 01:05:37,210
say hey you've got a good place to

1277
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:40,180
invest money and this is a perfect time

1278
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:40,990
to do so

1279
01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:43,630
anytime you see a lot of numbers that

1280
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:45,940
are duplicating it's telling us to take

1281
01:05:50,670 --> 01:05:48,220
a look strong look at what they

1282
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,680
represent yeah I think you're absolutely

1283
01:05:56,460 --> 01:05:53,200
right and it's a wonderful opportunity

1284
01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:56,470
to do that and to take that pause so

1285
01:06:02,220 --> 01:05:59,170
that you you don't miss that intuition

1286
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:02,230
or whatever it is that guidance that's

1287
01:06:05,940 --> 01:06:03,970
trying to make its way through to you

1288
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:05,950
you know when you're busy running around

1289
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:07,690
doing whatever you're doing in life

1290
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:08,770
whether you're taking care of your

1291
01:06:13,410 --> 01:06:11,440
children or your parents or you are

1292
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:13,420
going to school doesn't matter it's just

1293
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:16,630
everybody's caught up in a stream that

1294
01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:21,070
is extremely fast right definitely you

1295
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:23,350
know very fast one thing I'd like to

1296
01:06:27,930 --> 01:06:25,720
suggest is when we see double numbers or

1297
01:06:30,510 --> 01:06:27,940
when we see repeated numbers so put it

1298
01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:30,520
that way because sometimes we don't see

1299
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:32,470
the double number we'll see maybe three

1300
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:34,270
four and five or we see a group of

1301
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:39,280
numbers add the numbers up and put a

1302
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:41,710
single number and take a look at what's

1303
01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:44,560
going on around you take a look at how

1304
01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:47,020
many times the numbers that come at you

1305
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:50,740
like that add up to the same number they

1306
01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:52,600
may be different numbers but they'll

1307
01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:57,040
still say maybe it's two four five and

1308
01:07:02,460 --> 01:06:58,870
then the next time it's four or five two

1309
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:02,470
or accommodation but when you total them

1310
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:05,200
they end up being the same single digit

1311
01:07:10,590 --> 01:07:08,170
very interesting that gives us something

1312
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:10,600
else to look at or look forward to it

1313
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:12,880
does it does absolutely now we're coming

1314
01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:16,690
into Thanksgiving yeah next week and

1315
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:18,760
what does that look like from a

1316
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:20,770
neurological perspective what do you

1317
01:07:24,450 --> 01:07:22,060
think is this going to be a tumultuous

1318
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:24,460
time or is it going to be nice and calm

1319
01:07:30,270 --> 01:07:28,330
and peaceful it's going to be I'm not

1320
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:30,280
gonna say peaceful it's going to be

1321
01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:33,160
entertaining we're going to be more

1322
01:07:37,650 --> 01:07:35,350
social with one another we're going to

1323
01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:37,660
be people are going to be more willing

1324
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:39,700
sher get things together and enjoy

1325
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:42,250
what's going on this is the last

1326
01:07:48,359 --> 01:07:45,730
go-around this year for having a good

1327
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:48,369
time or letting things feel good because

1328
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:50,170
December's going to deal with a lot of

1329
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:52,980
work for us but for this month

1330
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:56,650
creativity communications make those

1331
01:08:00,690 --> 01:07:58,720
little goodie bags that you want to send

1332
01:08:02,819 --> 01:08:00,700
to different people thanking them for

1333
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:02,829
what they've done this year perfect

1334
01:08:07,319 --> 01:08:04,180
month to do it because you're very

1335
01:08:09,930 --> 01:08:07,329
creative great time to make notes up I

1336
01:08:12,779 --> 01:08:09,940
had a client that was so sweet they

1337
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brought me a package of different

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goodies all wrapped up beautifully in

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little orange bows and different things

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and a beautiful card that they had

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01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:22,330
written and done themselves and it just

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01:08:27,809 --> 01:08:24,910
meant so much because that personal

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:27,819
touch use your creative juices right now

1344
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:30,130
that's what this month is all about and

1345
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:33,330
here on Thanksgiving Day your talents

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01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,290
that sounds good

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01:08:41,939 --> 01:08:37,359
so we don't to be too overly concerned

1348
01:08:43,860 --> 01:08:41,949
about disasters we can just enjoy

1349
01:08:46,530 --> 01:08:43,870
because it's a good time to share

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01:08:48,269 --> 01:08:46,540
communicate bring things up that maybe

1351
01:08:50,849 --> 01:08:48,279
that we've put off talking to somebody

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01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:50,859
about because it's a time when we're

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01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:53,500
very forgiving three months to

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01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:56,440
communicate we are very good at

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01:09:02,130 --> 01:08:58,089
forgiving what's been said in the past

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:02,140
or build a bridge that we could all walk

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01:09:06,689 --> 01:09:04,449
on that's nice that's a wonderful

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01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:06,699
message for Thanksgiving I love that

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:08,109
that's terrific

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01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:11,770
so as we go further in the year

1361
01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:14,560
well again I want to urge everybody to

1362
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:17,140
contact you because Patricia Kirkman

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01:09:22,559 --> 01:09:20,080
comm you have the ability to give people

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01:09:25,140 --> 01:09:22,569
a private reading so they can find out

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01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:25,150
what's coming up in their lives over the

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01:09:29,550 --> 01:09:27,940
next year and do whatever they need to

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01:09:32,189 --> 01:09:29,560
do to get ready for it be their best

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01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:32,199
selves etc so that's that Patricia

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01:09:38,099 --> 01:09:35,920
Kirkman comm he people can go there and

1370
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:38,109
have a session with you now do you do

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01:09:42,809 --> 01:09:40,960
you do our sessions right I do have hour

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01:09:44,519 --> 01:09:42,819
or an hour depending on what a person

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01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:44,529
needs I like to give them what they have

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:47,560
to have that what convention says

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01:09:51,150 --> 01:09:49,210
they're supposed to do because you're

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:51,160
teaching classes

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01:09:58,140 --> 01:09:54,850
in January okay

1378
01:10:00,090 --> 01:09:58,150
now also they should contact you because

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01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:00,100
this month with it's all about the

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:02,110
creative side whatever in communications

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01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:05,770
what about our dreams my dear yes it's a

1382
01:10:11,130 --> 01:10:08,830
great time of year to focus on that and

1383
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:11,140
that is your magic I mean that's your

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01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:13,420
internal magic that you can reach at any

1385
01:10:18,540 --> 01:10:16,120
time and it doesn't take much effort to

1386
01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:18,550
create that relationship so yes people

1387
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:20,590
can find both of us on Supernatural

1388
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:24,070
girls with a z.com and they can contact

1389
01:10:28,590 --> 01:10:26,770
us at their convenience and we both have

1390
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:28,600
our emails there and you can just shoot

1391
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:31,090
us an email good question you know if

1392
01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:32,950
you have a question about a dreams or

1393
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:35,200
numerology just shoot it over if you

1394
01:10:41,660 --> 01:10:37,510
want a session we can arrange that for

1395
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:41,670
you so very good now we do have some

1396
01:10:53,190 --> 01:10:47,590
paranormal stories one of them is about

1397
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:53,200
booze the booming noises in Alabama now

1398
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:55,810
I don't know these Alabama these Alabama

1399
01:10:59,850 --> 01:10:58,000
noises are not just in Alabama I mean

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01:11:03,180 --> 01:10:59,860
there we've heard about them all over

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01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:03,190
the world in fact some of my interns

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01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:04,960
told me that they heard them in

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:07,630
Westfield and they pulled out their cell

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01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:10,930
phones taped it nobody knows where it's

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:14,080
coming from or why it's happening but

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:17,770
it's very concerning again a big noise

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01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:21,610
like that out of nowhere we've also seen

1408
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:23,920
as a big earthquake swarm that's been

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01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:27,520
happening in California so that's going

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01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:29,680
on and you have to wonder you know are

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01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:32,950
these things connected the solar storms

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01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:35,710
the earthquakes we've had some big ones

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:38,920
in the world in the last week and are

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01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:41,050
they all connected so that's on our

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:44,260
Facebook page so you definitely want to

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:46,810
go there and take a look at that Alabama

1417
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:49,690
story now if you have sounds that you've

1418
01:11:54,030 --> 01:11:51,490
heard and you've taped them send them to

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01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:54,040
us we'll play them on the air tell us

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01:11:58,770 --> 01:11:56,590
what you think you know we'll give you

1421
01:12:02,490 --> 01:11:58,780
an opportunity to share with everybody

1422
01:12:04,919 --> 01:12:02,500
what you think is happening or if you

1423
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:04,929
have an experience if you've seen mark

1424
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:07,870
if you've seen Bigfoot if you had an

1425
01:12:12,570 --> 01:12:10,810
experience as men and black we want to

1426
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,580
hear from you and again you can agree to

1427
01:12:18,419 --> 01:12:15,520
see on our website supernatural girls

1428
01:12:21,149 --> 01:12:18,429
with a Z comm you can also reach us on

1429
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:21,159
the supernatural Girls Facebook page

1430
01:12:25,580 --> 01:12:23,170
so you can leave comments or questions

1431
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:25,590
there but if you've got a story to tell

1432
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:29,170
we would like to hear from you about it

1433
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:31,750
so don't be afraid to share them with us

1434
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,850
you know this is where paranormal is

1435
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,400
normal we want to hear your story

1436
01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:38,800
so there are some great stories out

1437
01:12:44,399 --> 01:12:41,620
there and oh yes yes don't let them be

1438
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:44,409
untold I just heard a story from Bob

1439
01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:47,770
Luca one of our dear friends who told us

1440
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:50,100
about a truck driver who was abducted

1441
01:12:58,050 --> 01:12:54,489
along with his 18-wheeler which is an

1442
01:13:00,300 --> 01:12:58,060
amazing story and unfortunately the

1443
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,310
story didn't get out very much but it

1444
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:03,520
had some real evidence associated with

1445
01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:07,449
it because you know truckers have a way

1446
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,429
that the mileage is counted on their

1447
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:12,000
trucks right when they're traveling and

1448
01:13:17,939 --> 01:13:14,710
this trucker was going I forget where it

1449
01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:17,949
was quite a distance and the mileage

1450
01:13:25,649 --> 01:13:22,860
only showed 14 miles so strange

1451
01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:25,659
yes and unfortunately this gentleman has

1452
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:26,260
passed away

1453
01:13:31,770 --> 01:13:29,050
so we've missed an opportunity to hear

1454
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:31,780
directly from him and tell the story to

1455
01:13:36,030 --> 01:13:33,489
our audience who wants to hear more of

1456
01:13:38,729 --> 01:13:36,040
these but I know there's lots and lots

1457
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:38,739
of stories like this out there people

1458
01:13:48,899 --> 01:13:47,050
sometimes feel afraid they're gonna get

1459
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:48,909
picked on about it you don't have to

1460
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:50,409
worry about that with me you would like

1461
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,510
to keep your name confidential we will

1462
01:13:56,910 --> 01:13:55,120
keep your name confidential so that's

1463
01:13:59,610 --> 01:13:56,920
not a problem but you can write to us

1464
01:14:01,020 --> 01:13:59,620
will respect you our confidentiality if

1465
01:14:02,669 --> 01:14:01,030
that's what you'd like but if you'd like

1466
01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:02,679
us to tell the story on the air we are

1467
01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:04,870
going to start doing that and you

1468
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:07,480
collect these stories there's lots of

1469
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:09,370
stories here in western US and the hill

1470
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:11,890
towns there's been sightings of all

1471
01:14:15,959 --> 01:14:13,510
kinds of strange things so I'm gonna

1472
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,969
start collecting them and again feel

1473
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:17,679
free to contact us so

1474
01:14:23,339 --> 01:14:21,130
that we can get your story out there it

1475
01:14:26,939 --> 01:14:23,349
was also good say if they're interested

1476
01:14:29,339 --> 01:14:26,949
every day I put out a brief of what the

1477
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:29,349
day's all about so if they would like to

1478
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:31,360
know that they can go to my Facebook

1479
01:14:37,529 --> 01:14:34,239
page and join in every morning there's

1480
01:14:40,020 --> 01:14:37,539
what the day is about universally right

1481
01:14:43,049 --> 01:14:40,030
given the heads that's there's a very

1482
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:43,059
very helpful information always always

1483
01:14:49,109 --> 01:14:46,510
and the other thing that we had on our

1484
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:49,119
Facebook page this week which I thought

1485
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:52,150
was extremely cool and you all may have

1486
01:14:58,339 --> 01:14:54,130
heard of it before

1487
01:15:09,509 --> 01:14:58,349
but it's it was about Big Foot braiding

1488
01:15:11,879 --> 01:15:09,519
the Mane's and Tails horses they had

1489
01:15:13,699 --> 01:15:11,889
beautiful pictures of Mane's braided I

1490
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:13,709
don't know Bigfoot did these but

1491
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:17,050
certainly this has been done and it's

1492
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:19,449
been reported numerous times by people

1493
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:21,130
who own horses and they come out with

1494
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:23,650
you know their horses Mane's and Tails

1495
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:26,320
are all braided beautifully now what

1496
01:15:31,709 --> 01:15:28,630
that is I don't know what do you think's

1497
01:15:36,779 --> 01:15:31,719
going it's nice to know that that

1498
01:15:38,850 --> 01:15:36,789
talented they apparently like horses and

1499
01:15:40,410 --> 01:15:38,860
you know they like braiding their I

1500
01:15:43,589 --> 01:15:40,420
really look at the hairdresser's for

1501
01:15:45,779 --> 01:15:43,599
horses I don't know I think it's it

1502
01:15:47,459 --> 01:15:45,789
different definitely different you know

1503
01:15:49,259 --> 01:15:47,469
I was I mentioned you earlier there was

1504
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:49,269
a meteor that hit outside of Phoenix

1505
01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:51,820
last night about 8:15 last night and

1506
01:15:57,959 --> 01:15:54,729
they were talking about it and so they

1507
01:16:00,540 --> 01:15:57,969
were talking about the after part so

1508
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:00,550
capable people in the area take a look

1509
01:16:04,129 --> 01:16:02,050
you never know what's gonna happen next

1510
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,139
the way things have been going lately

1511
01:16:09,299 --> 01:16:07,360
everything's a little crazy it is and

1512
01:16:11,129 --> 01:16:09,309
you never know in their report a meteor

1513
01:16:14,429 --> 01:16:11,139
is it really a meteor is it something

1514
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:14,439
else so you always want to watch the

1515
01:16:18,839 --> 01:16:16,449
follow up on that and also talk to other

1516
01:16:21,020 --> 01:16:18,849
people who saw it but a media is pretty

1517
01:16:24,179 --> 01:16:21,030
straightforward if that's what it was

1518
01:16:26,370 --> 01:16:24,189
what everybody and the other thing I was

1519
01:16:28,739 --> 01:16:26,380
gonna mention is a couple weeks ago we

1520
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:28,749
posted a picture of a cloud that looked

1521
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,449
like a plate actually yes

1522
01:16:35,639 --> 01:16:33,760
I get three or four other people comment

1523
01:16:38,609 --> 01:16:35,649
or send me a note saying they've seen

1524
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:38,619
this strange cloud over their area as

1525
01:16:44,009 --> 01:16:41,110
well so there he goes the big question

1526
01:16:48,689 --> 01:16:44,019
cloud or not a cloud yeah because it's

1527
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:48,699
so perfectly set up as a plate that's

1528
01:16:52,290 --> 01:16:50,590
right very interesting and again a lot

1529
01:16:54,719 --> 01:16:52,300
of these things that all of them are on

1530
01:16:55,649 --> 01:16:54,729
our Facebook page so be sure to go to

1531
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:55,659
our Facebook page

1532
01:17:01,529 --> 01:16:57,760
supernatural girls give us a like follow

1533
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:01,539
us follow us on Twitter and also go to

1534
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:03,760
the zomp the real zombie plague if you

1535
01:17:08,129 --> 01:17:05,050
want to know more about autoimmune

1536
01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:08,139
disease lyme disease etc the real zombie

1537
01:17:12,389 --> 01:17:10,329
plague follow us there as well we're

1538
01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:12,399
going to be doing more to provide you

1539
01:17:17,639 --> 01:17:14,590
with the right information so that any

1540
01:17:22,049 --> 01:17:17,649
of you have this can get well so in the

1541
01:17:24,209 --> 01:17:22,059
meantime we will well we'll see you kind

1542
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:24,219
of next week more or less

1543
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:26,320
a pre-recorded show with Robert Abbott

1544
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:30,610
all right and so please tune in you will

1545
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:33,369
even learn a lot from Robert and our

1546
01:17:38,189 --> 01:17:35,169
wonderful show about autoimmune disease

1547
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:38,199
and lime so be sure to join us then and

1548
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:43,570
then we'll see you on the B Highway good

1549
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:44,530
night everybody

1550
01:17:52,009 --> 01:17:47,590
good night Happy Thanksgiving definitely